. Key Discussion Points: Education: The speakers emphasize the importance of education in transmitting values and how history and humanities are being marginalized in the curriculum. John Ashcroft states that the purpose of education should be to teach people how to think, not what to think [39:33].
- Politics and Public Service: Ashcroft discusses his motivation for public service as a desire to “steer the ship rather than just to ride” and to reinforce the right values [23:28].
- Current Events: The conversation touches on current events, including the Trump presidency and foreign policy, with Ashcroft expressing encouragement for America’s role as a peacemaker [51:31].
- Personal Anecdotes: The discussion includes personal stories, such as Ashcroft’s time as a college football player at Yale [09:29] and Morris’s experience teaching tennis to Brad Pitt [11:43].



