In this episode of “Changing Times,” host Lynn Morris is joined by Ike Skelton, Presiding Commissioner of Camden County, and Ron Sanders to discuss the implications of Flock Safety cameras on privacy and constitutional rights.
Here is a detailed breakdown of the discussion:
1. Surveillance and Constitutional Concerns
The core of the debate centers on whether automated license plate readers (ALPR) infringe upon First and Second Amendment rights.
- Targeted Locations: Ron Sanders highlights concerns about cameras placed at the entrances of shooting ranges and churches, potentially creating a de facto registry of gun owners and religious practitioners 06:19 Opens in a new window .
- Fourth Amendment Issues: The guests argue that tracking movements without a warrant or probable cause violates the protection against unreasonable searches 08:54 Opens in a new window .
- The “Chilling Effect”: They discuss how constant surveillance dehumanizes citizens, causing them to change their behavior and live in a state of “constant fear” 36:01 Opens in a new window .
2. Data Ownership and Private-Public Partnerships
A significant portion of the video explores the “insidious” nature of the contracts between local governments and Flock Safety.
- Irrevocable Access: Even if a law enforcement agency “owns” the data, the contracts often grant Flock Safety irrevocable rights to the metadata in perpetuity 15:03 Opens in a new window .
- “Vehicle Fingerprinting”: The technology goes beyond license plates, capturing identifying features like scratches, dents, and bumper stickers to track vehicles even if the plates are changed 15:36 Opens in a new window .
- Lack of Oversight: Commissioner Skelton notes that many of these systems are implemented via “Memorandums of Understanding” (MOUs), which bypass the typical commission approval process and public scrutiny 24:04 Opens in a new window .
3. Personal and Legal Consequences
Commissioner Skelton shares his personal experience in Camden County, where he took a stand against the technology.
- Camden County Conflict: After the county commission voted to prohibit the cameras, Skelton personally took one down when law enforcement refused to enforce the ordinance. He was subsequently charged with felonies but eventually pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor 38:41 Opens in a new window .
- Financial Burden: The guests emphasize that defending one’s rights against government overreach is prohibitively expensive for most citizens 31:00 Opens in a new window .
4. Future Technology: AI and Facial Recognition
The discussion warns of even more invasive technology on the horizon.
- AI Integration: New cameras are being deployed along walking paths that use motion detection and AI facial recognition to build databases of pedestrians 24:26 Opens in a new window .
- Revenue Generation: They predict a shift toward using these cameras for automated ticketing for seatbelt and cell phone violations, similar to systems already in place in New York 19:17 Opens in a new window .
Summary and Call to Action
The guests conclude by urging citizens to be vigilant and engage in local elections, as local officials (mayors, city councils, and commissioners) are the ones signing these surveillance contracts 40:20 Opens in a new window .



